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Topic we are most looking into doing is the Womens Issues in the Middle East. Comparing and contrasting womens roles in two different M.E. countries. -PRiNCESS'ROSE* (:

Hey guys! i was thinking and researching..and there are so many different MD Countries!!. so i wanted to know if you guys wanted to maybe instead compare and contrast women's issues today in more than two Middle Eastern countries cause we could do multiple different countries instead. Cause, we would then have more information to use, and then we could see how various ME countries treat women differently from one another. There might me more info for us to use that way.... But just a thought lol :D

but here are some sites about womans rights in different ME places that i found!: []

Syria: [] []

Saudi Arabia: [] [] []

Today's problems for woman in Iran: [] Some of the different countries: []

Lebanon: [] []

- *MICHI A.*

 Hey GUYS(: taylor sent me some site we can look at for the womens roles in Saudi Arabia. Im not sure if you all got it but Here are the sites: I thought they where very helpful for our question and found out that these sites had some information on history/tradition and rights of the women there. -PRiNCESS'ROSE* []
 * Our question is now How are women's roles in Saudi Arabia differ from those in Syria? (for example we can talk about history/tradition, fashion, rights, and religion.) **

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Oh, and lets try and look for some videos and pictures from the past and present for our countries(: I think that would be cool do have a visual look on our question(: Like this one:* media type="youtube" key="Mv4Mb_TAfbU" height="344" width="425"

Okay, so i found some sites we could use -Stephanie http://www.islamfortoday.com/women.htm http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:4TKuRF2DkvwJ:www.d3systems.com/webworks/apps/document_download/get_download.asp%3FID%3D13+women%27s+lifestyle+and+rights+in+syria&hl=en&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbTEaAqu9NxtAP1nIVziKvFfLFtBJg

__Global Issues Project Proposal__ http://www.religiousconsultation.org/News_Tracker/Saudi_women_say_religious_traditions_block_rights.htm [|__http://countrystudies.us/iran/53.htm__] [|__http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/07/08/saudi-arabia-women-s-rights-promises-broken__] [|__http://www.infoplease.com/spot/womenstimeline1.html__] [|__http://countrystudies.us/united-states/history-54.htm__] [|__http://www.ifad.org/gender/learning/sector/agriculture/31.htm__] [|__http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/07/08/saudi-arabia-women-s-rights-promises-broken__] [|__http://www.infoplease.com/spot/womenstimeline1.html__] [|__http://countrystudies.us/united-states/history-54.htm__] [|__http://www.islamfortoday.com/women.htm__] [|__http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:4TKuRF2DkvwJ:www.d3systems.com/webworks/apps/document_download/get_download.asp%3FID%3D13+women%27s+lifestyle+and+rights+in+syria&hl=en&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbTEaAqu9NxtAP1nIVziKvFfLFtBJg__].
 * Topic ** : For the Global Issues Project, our group has decided to do research on Women’s roles in the Middle East.
 * Question ** : The question that we have chosen to use is, “ How are women's lifestyles in Saudi Arabia different from those in Syria?”. We already know that in the Middle East women have little rights compared to men and are required to be extremely modest in their daily lives. We realized that there is a lot of information that we can find for this topic and hope to learn about the lifestyles of these women.
 * Sources**: Some of the sources that we have found on Saudi Arabia and Syria are:
 * Skills**: The skills that we will use throughout this project will be time management, group interaction and organization. This will help us not to procrastinate so that we do not have to overly stress about finishing. Also, we will research by going to the library, use Internet sources and look for any videos/news clips.
 * Timeline**:
 * Jan. 28:** Proposal Due
 * Feb. 16:** Rough draft of outline for group to edit
 * Feb. 19:** Outline due to turn in
 * March 10:** Rough draft of 1st draft for us to edit
 * March 25:** Final edit for 1st draft
 * March 31:** 1st draft to turn in
 * April 19:** Drafts to edit before final
 * April 27:** Final draft to turn in

__**Feb.07 2010.**__  Women’s in Saudi Arabia roles and rights are something that they don’t really like to discuss. They are not allowed to vote, study certain subjects, travel alone, or work together with men. But one of the main reasons why people are noticing these women is because they are required to wear the Abaaya. Even though Saudi Women say they don’t mind letting outsiders try to fight for more women rights, it’s usually on their religion. Saudi Women say religious rights are not as important to them as social and political rights. However, they look forward to the day when they can change the look of the Abaaya. In 2004, women were able to remove their Abaaya and converse with men during an international economic conference. It created a major problem saying that women had taken things to far. The behavior was banned, and women were told to obey to the rules in their “holy land”. People get confused thinking religion is the reason why women don’t have the freedom they deserve. It’s actually the culture that men enforce in their society. Saudi Arabian women are actually very smart and more motivated then men. If Saudi Arabia wants to open up to the rest of the world, they should let women into the workforce. While some women look forward to change in culture and religion, others say they have seen problems like this before, and nothing has happened yet.-stephanie

Pejman, Peyman. “Saudi Arabia: Women Say Religious Traditions Block Their Rights.” __TheReligious Consultation.__ 3 March 2004. 31 Jan. 2010.

This website helps out soo much Thanks Steph.

In Syria, the religions are Sunni Islam’s, Kurds, Turkomans, Circassians and Palestinians. To be part of a religious group is decided at birth. However the main religion is Sunni Islam making up 75% of Syrian population. These people are the ones that keep the religion, beliefs and values in order by following the Sunna or words passed down from Mohammed. With such a large population the people of the Sunni religion are found doing everything from normal jobs in one area to being part of social groups and political parties in other areas. However in places such as Suwayda and Al Ladhiqiyah, other religions are the majority. Besides the Sunni Islam religion there is also Christianity, Druze and Judaism religion. Although Christianity only makes up about 8% of the people, they come from Roman Catholicism and Protestantism ideas that were brought in by missionaries. Other eastern groups are autonomous orthodox churches and the independent Nestorian church. With all these different groups it was a result of fear of Muslims, and political and doctrinal conflict. Past groups such as the Nestorians, Monophysites, Monothelites all stopped because of some type of disagreement with Christianity. The biggest Christian church in Syria is the Greek Orthodox Church or the Melkite church and the second is the Syrian Orthodox church. The Druze religion came from Egypt. It is based on books by Aristotle and Psalms. The beliefs are reincarnation and only one god. The oldest religion of Syria is Judaism. Syrian Jews are allowed to emigrate and go the US. Slowly the belief in saints is growing. Villages have small shrines dedicated to a certain local people whom they considered good ad worthy to be a saint. Women come to these shrines to pray for help, good fortune and protection. Unorthodox religions are most popular with women. They do not look at the gender of people so women especially can reach their own spiritual needs that can be passed on to the next generation. -stephanie

“Religion in Syria.” Sacred Destinations. 2005. 10 Feb. 2010. 

Feb. 9:

hey guys i found this website about syrian women and it talked about dress, how they have to behave in public, their education, their marriage, and etc...http://damascusdreams.wordpress.com/2006/12/07/some-observations-about-syrian-women/. This other article disscussed how syrian women are not allowed to pass on their nationality to their children and how that sometimes affects their children if the husband and father leaves []. I also found this site that discussed the fact that saudi arabian women should be allowed to drive: []. Another aticle talked about women in syria joining the Judiciary [].

So far i find that living in Saudi Arabia today is much harder than living in Syria today, Saudi Arabia seems far more strict with women then they are in Syria. Michi A.

Hey everyone So Lau and I separated everyone for what they're going to write about. Fashion: Princess Religion: Steph. History(tradition): Michi Rights: Tash

If you have any questions or want to switch just let me or anyone else know. For the timeline do any of you have an idea of what the order for our topics should be? I was thinking of maybe having it as History first, followed by Religion, rights and then fashion, but I'm not sure up to you guys. Also we need to decide on our thesis statement. I'll talk to you guys more tomorrow. Tash

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hey guys, i found this great site on syria, it talks about what the culture is really like in the country from fashion to history. so most of us can use it(: if one of you guys can print this out it would be awesome(: since i have no printer:( sorry guys. -PRiNCESS===== [|Syria] And here are two information on women fashion as well in Saudi Arabia. I found that they have to wear some kind of clothing called an Abaya(: [|Saudi Arabia] [|Abaya]

---feb 10 stuff that was saved on my thumbdrive -stephanie How are women’s daily lives in Saudi Arabia differ from those women in Syria? Women’s daily lives are stricter in Saudi Arabia than Syria today. They had less freedom and say in decisions, such as rights, religion, and household life style. Women in Syria have no say in the income, they make through the hard labor they do. In both countries women are to obey their husbands or face being punished. In both Syria and Saudi Arabia women are still working low paid jobs today; abortion is criminalized and illegal in any circumstances.
 * __Thesis Statement__ **

Feb. 11 I found this video about women in Saudi Arabia

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I found the second half to the video that Princess uploaded. media type="youtube" key="P6OJECs98S4" height="344" width="425"

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This video is about a woman who is a women's rights activist talking about how Islam affects their rights.

media type="youtube" key="lPz4olc1Les" height="344" width="425" --Feb 12

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feb.16 outline... so i tried to fix it...we might need more info -stephanie :3

For women in both Saudi Arabia and Syria daily life continues to be a challenge. They have very little freedom or say in any decisions that relate to their rights, religion, fashion and lifestyle, because of their history and tradition. Women in both countries are also required to obey their husbands and men in their lives or risk being severely punished. However, compared to Syria women in Saudi Arabia lifestyles are much more strict and limited.

Hey you guys! this is michi :D um i found some books that can help all of us so i wrote out the info on a paper nd i will bring it tomorrow to school...but i was wondering...because i am really having a hard time with the history...so i was thinking that Steph you can do religion, princess you can do fashion and clothing, Tash you can do the rights of women in education, work, and politics, and that i could do marriage and relationship with men, and then we could all look up history on our topics as well if we have time...because their was not enough info to compare both histories and then it might get confusing becuase i would be researching on history of your guy's topics and that could get confusing in the paper....i will talk to you guys about it tomorrow....Also Steph i found what the main religion is in Saudi Arabia..i can't remember it right now but i have it in this book i borrow and i will bring it tomorrow! -michi

then dont forget to bring it tomorrow...thursday~(stephi) --feb. 17--- //hey guys(: here an excellent site i found about all of our categories we are doing. im going to use dome of these information for our outline(: [|http://www.ou.edu/mideast/country/syria.htm]//

Important. I took our thesis statement to Mr. Bonning to look at it and we shortened our thesis statement. It is now, For women in Saudi Arabia and Syria daily life continues to be a challenge. They have very little freedom or say in any decisions that relate to their **__rights, religion, fashion, relationships and lifestyle__** because of their history and tradition.

Our main focuses on the outline is going to be rights, religion, fashion, and lifestyle. We can take all of these and use history and tradition to be the link between all of our topics if you want to do that.

Hey Stephi!! i found this website as i was researching stuffs [] and its about a Saudi Arabian religion and their is stuff about how it affects women in it....k k :D -Michi

---FEB. 24, 2010

Hey guys mr. bonning wrote on our out line that we need back grounds sections on the two countries we have. So im going to look for information in all of our cateogries so we can have like history on our countries first to talk about. He also wrote that our thesis didnt mention anything about "relationships" but we wrote it on the outline, so i added relationships on our thesis statement as well. So, i think in each of our topics we should write about why thing the way they are in the beginning or ending of our paper. -princess(

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PRiNCESS ROSE: Rough draft. As Saudi women, many have none or little freedom in what they say or do. One of the biggest issues is the way they dress and how they represent themselves. In Saudi Arabia, many women cannot express themselves with the passion for fashion. They are to “conceal rather than reveal. (Debian)For the generations they have passed down the tradition of what women are to wear. As women in most of the Middle Eastern countries, many have had to deal with wearing the long black cloak that they have been forced to wear since they where 13.(Ambah) They call this cloak an abaya, where it covers a women’s body from head to toe, face and all. The only thing that they are mainly seen with is their eyes. As a religion as well as their custom women have to dress conservative. They are obligated to wear this cloak looking dress called abayas, a scarf covering their hair and a full face veil. (Debian) It is mostly worn in black, which marks their oppression and is meant to deflect attention, not attract. It covers a woman fully but their eyes, and sometimes their face. It is used for women to wear when they leave the house over their clothes. Today, women are trying to change that so that they style the abayas. They want to be stylish and actually like being seen in them. For many women wearing that black abaya since they were 13 years of age, get tired of how the black absorbs the heat in these types of scorching climate they live in. (Ambah) More than 75 years ago, the black abaya first came to Saudi Arabia from Iraq or Syria. (Ambah) It was caught on after King Abdul-Aziz, conquered regions and gave out presents to tribal leaders. From then on the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice started to enforce the dress code across the country. (Ambah) The black abaya slowly became a traditional custom and eventually became the national dress. It is considered a very important source of showing religious practice and law. Most believe that God ordered them to wear loose clothing so that it doesn’t show the shape of a women’s figure. So, they believe that the women should dress in black abayas to follow the example of women during the time of the prophet. (Ambah)

---feb. 28--- okay people, here are due dates before the rough draft that is due on march 31.

-march 10: have 1st country paper done (rough draft). -march 27: have 2nd country paper done (rough draft). -march 28~30: put together. -march 31: rough draft DUE!!!

--March 8--

Hey you guys I think that this website can be helpful to all of our parts Try and check it out. It talks about Rights, fashion, religion, and even history and relationships.

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Tash

March 9- ​ So guys, dont forget that we need to look at our style, info quality, and organization for our presentaion. We aso need to keep in mind to include our thesis, presentation strength and presesntation weakness. makes sure our presentaion flows, and matches. I got a few ideas(: -PRiNCESS

March 29--- Our Paper needs 1. Cover page "Title"/ Authors/ date/ marshall,chu,bonning 2. major topic sections (underlined bold) and whoever wrote the section 3. one COMPLETE document FLOOOOWS! 4. works cited 5. EVERYTHING DOUBLE SPACED! 6. 12-15 pages